colombia migrated here 35 years as wefpl thank you so much geraldo >> referee: --. don't miss a special edition of geraldo at large tonight in-depth look at the amazing chilean miner rescue tonight at 10:00, don't miss it. >> mar low thomas i like her, edward norton, not good. he's too appealing to the young audience. he'll take away the youth vote. don francisco, what is

huckabee trying do, get the latino aid ? no way jose. john kasich? the guy running for governor of ohio this is bad. let me be clear, i've been to ohio a dozen times. and they will all be wasted trip if we let kasich go on huckabee. it will kill us. that's it cancel tonight's huckabee show, i want it off, now. not me you idiot, huckabee! >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [ applause ] >> mike: welcome, thank you for joining us. welcome from the fox news studios in new york city. let me say, thanks mr. president. we are going to do the show any way tonight. wasn't that fun, having the

president of the united states open up our show? for a year now he's been talking about shovel-ready jobs and how if we had these shovel-ready jobs and the bill 787 billion dollars, we are going to keep unemployment low, put people to work, save the country and our economy. well, you know, i don't know if you have been noticing this, but the president has been talking about shovel-ready jobs for a long time, just watch. >> the president: all of them have projects that are shovel-ready. we've got shovel-ready projects across the country. shovel-ready projects. we are seeing shovels hit the ground. shovels are breaking ground. there are almost 100 -ready transportation projects approved in colorado which are beginning to create jobs. >> mike: shovel-ready jobs, that's what we've been hearing. this week in a revealing

interview in the "new york times" the president said there is no such thing as shovel-ready projects. no such thing as shovel-ready projects? mr. president what have you been shoveling all this time? [ applause ] >> mike: thanks to mike reid and our staff for helping put this together giving us this great idea. i think we could probably say take this job and shovel it. that's my view. i welcome yours. contact me at mikehuckabee.com fox news feedback section. you can sign up to go to my facebook, follow me on twitter, all sorts of stuff. you know a couple weeks ago we talked about the importance of ohio in the national political landscape. this weekend, president obama is making his 11th trip to the

buckeye state. that's where the race for governor has gotten closer in recent days. the latest real clear politics average of polls has republican challenger john kasich ahead of incumbent strickland by five points. there are only two weeks to go. joining us now from a rally in pomeroy, ohio is john kasich. i want to say in the interest of full disclosure i'm a friend of john and his wife karen, probably more so karen than john, i wish she were running. also, as someone who has endorsed him i'm not the least bit objective. we've invited governor strickland to be on the show. he was unable -- unavailable this week we welcome him between now and the election any time. john it is good to have you. i know this has been an intense race with an unusual amount of focus that the president has ohio and a governor's race. why is president obama so focused on the governor's race of ohio? >> he's here because he knows

if he loses the governor's office in ohio, which is ground zero, he's in deep trouble for 2012. they are pulling out all stops. more money spent against me than by the democratic party and their cohorts than any other candidate in america. but we are still ahead and doing great. [ applause ] >> mike: a lot of the attention in ohio because in a presidential election ohio is often the tipping point. if george w. bush had not won ohio in 2000, he wouldn't be president same in 2004. you can go through the list and this indicates who is going to have it. of this is about his love of ohio and is it more about the reelection that he may be facing in 2012? >> no, i think that's what it is all about. he believes that if -- look, ted strickland said whoever wins in '10 is going to help the candidate for president in '12. i'm not running against obama or ted strickland.

this state is in deep trouble. we have historic unemployment, rising poverty, rising hopelessness. our young people our entrepreneurs leave. my focus is to win this election get ohio moving again, based on the kind of fill loss nay you and i agree with and ronald reagan agreed with. if we do that, we little have a lot of influence once we move the needle and move ohio towards prosperity in the 2012 election. i know you very well. you and i don't hold personal grudges this is not a personality contest. it is about the policies that are going to spur growth. government is a last resort not as a first resort. running the country from the bottom up the more money people have the better off we are controlling our debt. what i focused on when i was a congressman and led the effort to balance the federal budget. it is serious stuff out here. not just for 10, -- '10 but

the implications for '12 as well. >> mike: one of the charges governor stricklands that thrown is you are tied to wall street you worked with lehman brothers. you are not a person who group as a trust fund baby. tell me your background. tell me where you came from, john kasich growing up? >> well, mike my father was a postman he carried mail on his back. he was a democrat all of his life. i grew up in a blue collar town outside of pittsburgh. if the wind blew the wrong way people found themselves out of work. i made ohio to go to ohio stay. my mother always said john raise the bar. my mother and father said shoot for the stars and you work hard and you can get there. that's one of the value us we are all concerned about, somebody is successful then they get criticized. it is class warfare which is an evil thing to be promoting, because it pits people against one another. by the way mike, i was in

business. i ran a two-man office out here in ohio and traveled the country and helped companies to create jobs. onening we need politics today is just not people who have political success, we need job creators. it is clear when you look at the obama administration and even strickland, if you don't understand how you can help small businesses to be strengthened and to expand and you don't understand innovation and how to help companies to get ahead, you end up in this kind of a terrible situation economically. so we not only need people who can be successful in politics but these understand job creation as well. i'm really proud of the fact that i was in business. >> mike: john kasich, thank you four joining us. i love you but i think the wrong kasich is on the ballot, it ought to be karen. >> my wife just loves. wait until they meet her then they will say they want her to run for governor. >> mike: john kasich everybody, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> mike: they may vote for

karen to be the first lady. we welcome governor strickland to come on the show any time. i've known john and karen a long time went to rwanda with them, so they are dear friends. >> all right, even the bible says that laughter is your best medicine. my next guest was raised with the legendary danny thomas and grew up with bob hope, milton byrl and george burns. marlo thomas will share some of her wonderful stories when they come back. to keep in balance after 50, i switched to a complete multivitamin with more. only one a day women's 50+ advantage has gingko for memory and concentration plus support for bone and breast health. a great addition to my routine. [ female announcer ] one a day women's. with the humana walmart preferred prescription plan, you have more time to remember what it's really a about.

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>> mike: she actress, activist and philanthropist. she has a new book out called "growing up laughing" it will keep you laughing. please welcome marlo thomas. [ applause ] >> mike: thank you so much for coming on. >> my pleasure. >> mike: i thought i would skim through and read some. >> yee of little faith. >> mike: the stories kept sucking me in and i could not get over the insights that you shared about the people you grew up with. >> right, yeah. i grew up in a comedy household that's why i call it "growing up laughing" my dad was funny all the comedians he hung out with were funny light hearted guys, milton berle, george burns and bob hope

loved to make jokes, pull pranks. i thought about that. about how my life really was about comedy all my life. and i wanted to find out, there's a couple of them there, this was after my dad died they still came to all the st. jude dinners. jan murray, george and sid and milton. i decided i wanted to interview today's young great comedians, jerry seinfeld, chris rock and jon stewart and colbert and whoopi and lilly and billy and all of them. they were very much like these guys. completely taking the cast of comedy seriously, honing their act. it was exciting to talk to them about the craft. i loved it. >> mike: i learned more about not only the comedians but the nature of comedy. one of the most powerful statements was seinfeld's when he said comedy is like sports. i thought that was extremely

insightful. got to making me think so is politics. you have instant feedback you either win or lose. seinfeld says you get on the stage, tell a joke and you know whether it worked or not. you do a movie and people may say i loved it, but you don't really no. >> no interpretation is needed. he said when you're doing a play and somebody comes backstage and says you were great. you think, was i? was i good? if you are a comedian you know darn well whether you are were good or not it is like a football game or politics the score is on the board and that's what it is. >> mike: the laugh for is the scoreboard of a comedian. >> he also said something seinfeld, adults of -- children laugh 75 times a day and adults laugh 12 times. isn't that sad? >> it is sad. >> yeah! i have a new website called marlothomas.com and i have the laugh of the day on my

website. it is so much fun finding the laugh of the day. i go through millions of jokes and videos, it is great. >> mike: when you were growing up danny thomas' daughter, one of the things that struck me was a boy you dated named jimmy pugh. you dumped him but your dad didn't. >> my dad had a hard time letting go. >> mike: obviously. then something happened, i want you to tell that story. >> right, we had broken up. i wanted to be an actress i'd gone off to new york to study acting. and i didn't know this story until after my dad died, i got a letter from jimmy p ugh h my boyfriend in college. my father loved this guy and wanted nomar him. i wanted to go off on my own. any way, after my dad died i got a letter from jimmy pugh telling me he used to have

beers with my dad. one day his car was parked in the alley it was this old jill i and jimmy was going to be a dentist and my dad said you will break every bone in your body with that car. some company had given him a pick-up truck and my dad was never going to drive it. he said to jimmy, you take this pick-up truck. he said i wouldn't possibly think of doing it. my father said you take it, i'm not going to allow you to get in. he drives off in the pick-up truck. i never knew this story. i thought so like my father. jimmy lost the girl but he got a v8 engine. [ applause ] >> mike: not a bad deal after all. we'll be back with more. the book is called "growing up laughing" you will find yourself laughing. this wonderful book by marlo thomas. she going to stay with us.

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. [ applause ] >> mike: you can sign up for my my podcast at mike huckabee.com listen to the huckabee report three times everyday 600 of america's finest radio stations. we are back with marlo thomas. when we were talking about this incredible experience you had not only with the comics that you knew from your father but the modern comedians. chris rock is certainly a very different kind of comedian than your dad. when you talked to him, what did you glean from his experience growing up funny? >> what i thought what was fascinating about chris rock,

i love him first of all. he's great. his act he has so many curse words in his act. i ran all of his shows back-to-back so i would be prepared for the interview. what amazed me is he is so moral. his messages are like a preach don't beat your wife get a job, take care of your kids, vote, be responsible. i'm writing them down and i'm thinking this this guy is like a preacher. i said to him there's a little preacher in you. he said my grandfather and great grandfather were preachers. >> mike: he uses a lot of same messages he just puts the word god in different places. >> that's very funny. >> mike: seinfeld talked about he did not use profanity because he thought he could be funnier. >> it would make him better. my dad never said a dirty word on stage either. interesting how the taboos have changed.

in my dad's day you could make what we know call politically incorrect jokes sexist jokes, racist jokes, but you didn't swear. today they can swear but don't make sexist, racist and politically incorrect jokes. which is interesting the taboos have switched. >> mike: i want to ask you about a day that i know is hard for you february 6th, 1991, you a call at 1:30 in the morning. tell me about that moment. >> we were asleep and the phone rang and the doctor was on the phone and he said, dad died. and i thought he meant his dad. i didn't know who he was talking about. because he called my dad, dad. dad died. then i just and fell on the floor and my husband walked over me to get to the phone and he side who is it, what happened, who died? and i heard him say, oh no! it was a terrible moment. it was terrible because first of all i an didded my dad, it

is obvious from my book. he was such a funny, good guy, and a decent man. and also it was a shock, because he was well. when that happens in your family it really knocks you out. it was tough getting through. but the thing that stayed with me is that he's inside of me. and i talk to him all the time, especially about st. jude's research hospital. i'm having a tough time i have to raise 700 million dollars a year. >> mike: how and why did he start that? >> i'll say all right daddy you wanted me to do this so you better help is your ballgame and you better fix this. >> mike: st. jude's is a magnificent hospital not far from where i group. why st. jude's? >> i think it came out of his immigrant childhood and seeing that nobody -- knowing he was one of 10 kids nine boys and a girl. my grandmother never had a doctor.

she ran after these kids, tyke care, nobody went to the doctor in the family or a dentist. my dad had false teeth. kids in his neighborhood died of influenza and rodent bites and all kinds of things. i think he had a front row seat to the inhe canties of health care in -- to the inhe canties of health care in this in country. most of the principles of st. jude had to do with a man who had a great conscience. no family was turned away. every kid gets a scientist and doctor. my dad said i don't want to just make kids better i want to find out what makes them sick. it is a place that studies medicine. so take his experience and do something powerful with it. that came out of his own childhood experience. >> mike: what a great legacy he left. all of us who graw up watching danny thomas on television and thought we knew him and liked him. after reading your book i realize what a classic, classy, wonderful human being, great

father, great husband and a great american and a wonderful, wonderful human being that you do a great job of telling us about in this book. >> oh great, thank. >> mike: what a delight to have you here. the book is called "growing up laughing" available at barnes & noble, a.m. szott.com wherever books can be purchased. >> it is the story that brought the whole world together. at amazing rescue of the 33 miners in chile. one of the most popular t.v. personalities in the latin community, he was a constant presence at the site. he's going to join us with stories you haven't heard before, next. ♪

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available for all to see on the internet. the pentagon has learned that wikileaks is going to pub -- publish new documents by tomorrow. the next posting will be five times larger than the amount of secret papers it dumped on the internet last july. j update on two new mine disasters. one in central china dangerous rescue mission underway. crews are trying to reach 16 miners believed to be trapped. the blast killed 21 other miners. in ecuador, search teams have found the bodies of two miners killed hundreds of feet underground during a cave-in. two other men are still missing behind tons of fallen rock. i'm julie banderas. now back to huckabee. you are watching fox the most powerful name news. [ applause ] >> mike: my next guest is the beloved host of the spanish language variety show one of the most popular television shows all over the world.

>> announcer: don francisco. now more than ever this is the best reason tostay at home on saturday night! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> mike: don francisco is from chile he launched his show from 50 years ago. later moved miami but he maintains strong ties to his homeland. raising millions in telethons for disabled children and earthquake victims there. he has made several trips to the mine where 33 men were trapped for almost 2 1/2 months. he offered encouragement and support to them and their families. joining me is don francis thank you forz;k; joing me today. were you physically present, went to the mine.

were you able to communicate with some of the miners during that period of time they were deep within the earth's surface? >> well, more with the families. because it was very difficult. i some letters from them. they were trapped for 70 days. and i went the first time when they just -- when the people just knew they were alive. and then at that time people were very scary, because they didn't know if they were alive. and then, i came back, now three days before rescued. and there was a lot of anxiety in the people. but, i never talked to the miners direct. i got some letters and i taked to the families. >> mike: this incident, i think has done more not just

for the people of chile, i think all over the world. we needed a good injection of hope and optimism. this brought the entire world together to all pray for these guys and their safety and then to celebrate when they were rescued. tell me what you felt when you saw that first miner rescued out of the mine? >> you know, that was so emotional for me mike. first this is our by centennial year. we had a very strong earthquake, we lost a lot of people. we -- was destroyed 1/3 of the country. then we have the miners trapped. and thate&jç was more than the life of the miners. that was a symbol for us. i was so emotional. everybody that worked there the international reporters too. not only myself, not only the

chileans, everybody. that was so strong that the -- across the borders and all over the world they watched that, i think it was one billion people that watched that.]4"÷ >> mike: i can imagine anybody watching this and not having just emotion well up, because i think somebody wisely said, we were all chileans during this experience. the whole world felt a connection to those miners and to their families and knowing they were there and hoping they would be able to be brought out. i want to talk about, your work is amazing, don. were you involved in the efforts after the horrible earthquake in chile, raising 80 million dollars cash, 40 million dollars in other goods and supplies. that's a lot of money to raise, to help those victims. what did you do? how did you go about getting people to give that kind of money for the cause? >> well first i have to tell

you that i do a telethon for handicapped children for 32 years. we do that united over television networks, because in our country, we have a lot of solidarity, because we need that solidarity. we have big earthquake, we have a tsunami, and always we have to get together. our country is like an island, very long about 4,000 miles long only 150 miles wide, between the mountains and the sea. we need each other always. i think we know that when something big is going on in our country, we have to be united. that was the reason that we got such big amount of money, 80 million dollars in cash, 40 million in goods and the telethon of 27 hours and we are only 16 million people. >> mike: one of the things that i marvel is your influence in the latino

community. you probably are the single most recognize ailing -- recognizable figure and have been for many years do you find a sense of responsibility that platform and pedestal you hold ever want to get on and make a stand for some political opinion that you have or decide hey i think i'm going to run for office? you would be tough if you were on the ballot. >> no. i never was directed in politics. but i'm always interested in social matters. i think that my work as a media man is putting in touch the need of the people with the government, with the people that have the solution in his hands. this is the reason that we work so close with our audience here in the united states, because one of the problems that the united states has, and our community has, we have a high percentage of our viewers that

are undocumented. that is a problem for the country and a big problem for their families. >> mike: before we close out, tell me something that you learned from the families that encouraged you that touched you? you talked to them out there outside the mine. there's got to be something that stands out that you got to you, deep inside? >> well, there were so many human stories. there was one of the miners, the youngest, and i spoke to his father. the father told me, i just spoke to my son. and my son told there are not 23 miners, there are 24 miners. i said why? because god is with them. because faith was so important for those men. each man have a small bible in his hand.

and then, they were praying even some of them they were not believers, at the end, everybody was praying. was praying for life. and then i think something very emotional for me was highway united was the country and -- was how united was the country and how much faith those men had 2,100 feet down. >> mike: very, very powerful story. don, thank you. thank the people of chile. >> before i leave, i'd like to show you that one of the rescuers the first one who went down the last one who came out, he gave me one of the glasses that is the same gases they each one was wearing when they came out, they are special glasses for the light. and maybe that is a symbol too. because i hope these glasses

will give them a new life. >> mike: i thank they have given all of us a new life. don francisco, thank you so much. >> coming up an award winning actor who could have his choice of roles. instead he stays in check and picks films that only interest him. edward norton is joining us, next. as we all know, geico has been saving people money on rv, camper and trailer insurance... ...as well as motorcycle insurance... gecko: oh...sorry, technical difficulties. boss: uh...what about this? gecko: what's this one do? gecko: um...maybe that one. ♪ dance music boss: ok, let's keep rolling. we're on motorcycle insurance. vo: take fifteen minutes to see how much you can save on motorcycle, rv, and camper insurance. my professor at berkeley

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robert de niro. he's a look at him questioning his moral authority to judge him. >> why do you get to walk around free and i don't? >> i wasn't convicted of a crime. >> you never did anything bad? you never did anybody no wrong had to be forgiven for nothing? >> i never broke the law. >> you never got a speeding ticket? you never backed somebody up in a bar fight? vietnam you never killed some kid? how long you get to keep judging a person for one bad thing they done? >> mike: please welcome edward norton. [ applause ] >> mike: edward, great to have you here. the audience loves you. you did this film as a special project. you picked this role. not because you thought it was going to be a blockbuster box office seller, although i

think it may be. there was something intriguing about the role of stone. tell me what it was that captured your attention? >> well, i had worked with this filmmaker before john curran, directed the painted veil. the character was interesting because he goes from a person, -- when i asked john what he thought the role was, he say i don't know what he sounds like or looks like when i meet him i want to think this guy is not a strong candidate for a spiritual transformation. >> mike: he was incorrigible. you thought this guy is hopeless. hopeless. then the evolution of his character in the film is -- >> i think there's a lot of ambiguity in this fill . john has set up the film in the end you are forced to confront the assumptions you have made about this person and consider the fact that it is possible he had an unexpected deep experience.

and portraying someone through that seems marginal, seems loopy or encourage able as you said, who seems to have -- encourage able as you said who seems to have found a separate peace with himself that was interesting know >> mike: one of the i had things that i loved about the film, there's this contrast between your character, stone who is this person you think has no redeeming qualities. we are introduced to robert de niro's character, jack who seems to be like this wonderful citizen. in the course of the film, you find out the people you think are fantastic have flaw us and the people you think nothing redeeming about them have some qualities that may be valuable. that's human nature. it is way life really is. >> yeah, and i think john made interesting comments about the idea of the film in which one character is literally

physically inprisoned but another is imprisoned in a life. he is married, goes to church, has a good job, but inside he feels little authentic feeling for those things and there's a consequence for that >> mike: i want to talk about research you did. you went to prisons, talked to inmates. tell me about an incident that stands out for you? >> there was a couple in particular. we were working in jackson michigan's north of detroit where the film is set. john wanted the character to be rooted in urban detroit. i met with guys who had come out of that environment. they been involved in the drug trade or gang life. i found that a number of them had very profound insights into what the psychology is of

going through the process of getting assessed by another person. having your own evolution as a person rated in some ways. i thought that was sort of emotionally and psychologically fascinating to hear highway anxious it makes them. in the character you see a lot of the anxiety of that in -- >> did you come away with this experience with a different understanding, appreciation or attitude toward the way we are locking people up an in this country and the corrections system? >> i know you've spent an enormous amount of your career in politics looking at the troubles in the prison system. we have a problem, obviously. being in there it gave me enormous respect in some ways for the troubles on both sides of the equation. the correction officers were fantastic and so committed. horribly under manned. horribly over stretched. you could see where cynicism

comes from not having the resources to practice rehabilitation. yet, you could see from it the guys inside too. certainly you meet those guys and say this is a person who is where they ought to be. but you also meet people w are authentically looking for an opportunity to go a different route, yet the resources are stretched. i think it is not a knock on anybody to say that we lock too many people up in this country. we use it as such a default mechanic that we -- mechanism that we are creating the idea of a prison that's a cycle not about the facility but a life that doesn't train you to keep returning is one we ought to be looking at. >> the corrects director that served with me when i was governor said we lock a lot of people up not because we are afraid of them, but because we are mad at them. as a result we have prisons filled with people who would be better off -- some people

ought to be there. they didn't get there for singing too loud in church last sunday. we clearly have over incarcerated to the point that now you have these warehouses with human people, who sometimes are dehumanized further in the process of trying to correct them. it is almost counter intuitive to what the goal is supposed to be. >> the reality of talking to people who are6z incarcerated when you confront the reality is intense. you realize that it is something that we shouldn't be using as a default. we shouldn't be senting people into that by default because we don't have the energy or the care or the love to try to pull people out of that environment. it is not an environment that is producing better people. >> mike: i hope the film is a big success. it makes people think. you were brilliant in it. brilliant performance. i hope you get the recognition you deserve.

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[ applause] >> mike: i want to thank reggie brown the obama impersonator who open our show tonight. will appear with laura ingraham on tour. go to presidentialimpostors.com for more details. i'm happy to have the little rockers back on the show. there's the folks who work around here at fox news but like to jam in their spare

time, like me. our cameraman on acoustic. keyboards lauren greene and stephanie smith and jim proctor on vocals. we are going to do a special tune if you notice i'm playing a different guitar this is an acoustic bass that i'm excited about. you don't see this often. our song today lends itself perfectly. we are going to do something, here's what happens, i've been thinking about nancy pelosi, how she must be feeling these days. she may not be the speaker of the house mitch longer. and she may wonder, where it all went wrong. so i've written a song to reminder her this is a parody of an old beatle's classic, eleanor rigby, i hope you like it. ♪ ♪ i look at all the angry voters

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